DOM_BIRD DISCUSSION LIST

DOM_BIRD is the Internet's friendliest and oldest list about chickens, waterfowl, and other domesticated barnyard poultry. DOM_BIRD has been serving the Internet community since 1995. Beginners, experts, old timers and young poultry fanciers are welcome. Subject matter includes all facets of raising poultry, poultry diseases and injuries, controlling predators, housing construction, and Livestock Guardian Dogs. Flames and put-downs are NOT permitted and flamers will be promptly removed so you have no fear of being pecked to death by people who might disagree with you. Unsolicited advertising by business owners is not permitted on DOM_BIRD. This is not a list about parrots or other exotic birds. Pro-animal rights or anti-farmer discussions are not allowed. Join today to find out why DOM_BIRD is one of the largest poultry lists on the net. Note that new members are moderated. Please read the list rules before posting.

SPECIAL POSTING RULE: DOM_BIRD is deliberately a low bandwidth list. Attachments are not allowed and when replying to posts on DOM_BIRD, it is required that you edit out all but the most relevant portions of the original message before sending it back to the list. The "Excessive Quoted Text" rule applies to everybody, but not everybody is moderated. If you notice somebody breaking this rule on a regular basis, let me know and I'll put them into moderation as well. New members are automatically moderated until they learn about this rule.

You can contact the main moderator at:

OR the emergency backup moderator at: barkof AT ulster.net (change 'AT' to '@')

Due to excessive spam originating from Yahoo, the standard contact address, dom_bird-owner@yahoogroups.com, does not work so all mail sent there is ignored. Since the list itself is semi-moderated, spam to the list itself is very rare.

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(Note: Make sure you understand how to unsubscribe before you use this form.)

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Note that if you use the web interface to subscribe, you will have a lot easier time with the special features such as the archive and photos section. This is due to bugs in Yahoo rather than anything deliberate.

TO UNSUBSCRIBE VIA EMAIL
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You must send this from the email address that you subscribed from.

TO SET DAILY DIGEST MODE VIA EMAIL
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TO TEMPORARILY STOP EMAIL DELIVERY OF DOM_BIRD
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TO SWITCH BACK TO INDIVIDUAL EMAIL DELIVERY
Send a blank email to: dom_bird-normal@yahoogroups.com

TO GET AN EMAIL WITH GENERAL HELP
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COMMON PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS

Problem: You want to unsubscribe, but don't know how to get off.
Solution: There are two ways to unsubscribe from DOM_BIRD. The simplest way is to send a blank email to: dom_bird-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . You must send this from the exact same email account that you originally subscribed from. Sometimes people subscribe from home and then forward all their home emails to their work email address. The list server will not accept an unsubscribe request from the work address if it was not the one that was used to subscribe originally. This creates a problem if you no longer have access to the email account that you used to first subscribe to DOM_BIRD. For this situation, you can access your subscription via the web. Log on to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dom_bird and then click "Unsubscribe" on the right. You may be required to log in first. If so, click "Sign in" and follow the directions. When all else fails, contact the DOM_BIRD list owner at the address above for assistance.

Problem: Your email address has changed.
Solution: The best way to handle this situation is to log on to the Yahoo Groups web page, click "My Preferences" and then change you email address directly. The list owner cannot do this for you. If you are unable to change your address directly, you must unsubscribe using your old email account and then resubscribe using your new email account. The latter method is undesirable because it will change all your settings back to their defaults.

Problem: You get two copies of every post.
Solution: This occurs if you are subscribed under multiple addresses. For example, your email address might be joe@someaddr.com. However, the server that your ISP uses may be called fred. If so, then joe@fred.someaddr.com is also a valid address and you will get email sent to that address as well. You might be subscribed to DOM_BIRD under both addresses. The same thing can happen if you changed your ISP recently and the old one is forwarding the mail to your new address. As such, if you are still subscribed under your old address and your new address is joe@newisp.com, then you will get two of everything.

Problem: You get two copies of some posts, but not all.
Solution: Generally, this happens when someone replies to your post and copies both yourself and DOM_BIRD into the address field. If the problem persists, you may wan't to ask the person not to do that.

Problem: You receive posts with no problem, but when you try to send posts, the post does not appear, or takes a long time to appear.
Solution: This could mean several different things.

• If you are a new member, your posts could be moderated and have not yet been processed by the moderator. The moderator is a real person with other things to do, so sometimes it can take a day or two to get through moderation. On DOM_BIRD, new members are moderated. When you have posted a sufficient number of posts to the list so that the moderator can see that you understand the rules and that you are not a spammer, you will be unmoderated so your posts go directly to the list.
• Sometimes Yahoo, our list provider, simply gets too bogged down and things take a while. Other times, the Internet itself is slow.
• Your email address may be bouncing. If, after a few hours, your post appears on the Yahoo main page, but you still don't recieve a copy in your email, your email address may be bouncing incomming mail from the list servers. Large Internet Service Providers, such as AOL and Roadrunner, block email from legitimate users for no real reason. Sometimes this is temporary and sometimes this is permanent. There are other ISP that do this as well, but these are the two biggest.
• Check your delivery options. With the Yahoo list server, it is possible to set your options to not send you mail.

Problem: You aren't receiving posts, but you can still post to the list and can see your post appear on the Yahoo groups web page.
Solution: This could be several things. The first thing to do is to log on to the Yahoo Groups web page and check your settings to make sure that you are correctly set to EMAIL mode. If this is correct, then your ISP may be acting up and bouncing email from DOM_BIRD. It is usually difficult to get an ISP to admit that he is doing this. Sometimes, it will clear up magically after a complaint, but sometimes it never clears up. If the latter is true, then you will either have to get a new ISP or read the posts on the web.